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"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
10/13/2014 at 13:56 • Filed to: None

Call my MUSCLE CARS a bunch of pony cars. I know how to hit that DISMISS BUTTON.

DISCUSSION (36)

Your boy, BJR > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 13:58

Hey.

Your Trans Am?

It's a pony car.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 13:58

which ones did you post?

because...Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, Challenger are all pony cars...

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 13:59

...I thought muscle cars and pony cars were the same thing...

Coty > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:00

Long nose short trunk, the formula for pony car.

RazoE > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:02

Makes two of us.

Mattbob > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:03

Kinja'd!!!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Coty
10/13/2014 at 14:10

This is always going to be a gray area.

But in my definition, the Muscle Cars were standard normal mid-size/full size cars that got turned into crazy performance monsters.

Pony cars were designed to be that way from the beginning, only came as coupes/2 doors. They also had a lot more emphasis on handling than outright power upgrades.

CAR_IS_MI > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:11

Not if you work in the marketing department of any of the big 3...

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > CAR_IS_MI
10/13/2014 at 14:12

I do and I have.

And I think everyone else that works with me doesn't know what they're talking about calling them Muscle cars.

EDIT- with the exception of the SS (and it's siblings) and the Charger.

CAR_IS_MI > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:14

Kinja'd!!!

Takuro Spirit > Your boy, BJR
10/13/2014 at 14:14

Kinja'd!!!

Takuro Spirit > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:15

Pony cars I consider stock, small displacement small cars, like the ones you stated. But throw a big motor in there, wider tires, and go racin'? MUSCLE car.

CAR_IS_MI > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:16

Yea but the Charger is all wrong. Too many doors...

Takuro Spirit > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:17

http://jalopnik.com/all-the-muscle…

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:23

I think in this case you are both right. I'm old enough to remember when all of the cars you mentioned were called pony cars.

 > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:27

Kinja'd!!!

Coty > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:37

That's a good definition as well.

Pitchblende > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:39

I'm sure there's a perfectly good definition, but quite frankly I treat the muscle/pony car thing in the same way I treat the Donk/Box/Potatofrog thing, I just don't need a tight description, one name for all is good enough for me. As for sports/super cars...

lonestranger > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:48

I respectfully disagree. Trans-Am racers, to me, are the epitome of pony cars. Relatively small and light with relatively small-displacement engines. Z/28, Boss 302, 'Cuda AAR, etc.

Get in to more intermediates and full-size cars with big blocks, more emphasis on straight-line speed and less on handling? Muscle car.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > lonestranger
10/13/2014 at 14:50

THIS

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:51

I disagree. Pony cars were the road racers.

This is from a different comment, but its the best I seem to be able to sum up my feelings on the categories:

The Sports Car vs Muscle Car vs Pony Car will always be a gray area. The Corvette is firmly in the Sports Car section though.

Muscle to me = standard mid/full size car that they just so happened to cram tons of motor into

Pony to me = 2 door only/coupe only car with 4 or 5 seats that has probably the same big motor/power from the Muscle car but with more epmhasis on handling

Sports to me= 2 door 2 seat emphasis on both power and handling.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > CAR_IS_MI
10/13/2014 at 14:53

I agree, though Muscle Cars were available in all kinds of formats, 2 door, 4 door, wagon

mcseanerson > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:53

Funny, I recommended a '64 Malibu built by Mark Stielow and only got one star. Meanwhile the Corvette has ten.

Tohru > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:54

Your stupid Camry is neither a muscle car nor a pony car.

mcseanerson > lonestranger
10/13/2014 at 14:54

Muscle car = GM A-body

Takuro Spirit > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:55

I just hate the term "Pony Car", unless you're talking about a Mustang.

Takuro Spirit > Tohru
10/13/2014 at 14:55

#RiceRocket

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:56

Is that because you don't want your Trans Am in the same category as Mustang? Or not in the category that Mustang CREATED?

It just is, that's why the Camaro/Firebird were first created - to compete with the Mustang in that category that had never existed before.

Takuro Spirit > mcseanerson
10/13/2014 at 14:56

I didn't see it...

CAR_IS_MI > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:57

True, I just have a bone to pick with the Charger as the good version (what they were aiming to bring back) was a 2 door.

Takuro Spirit > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 14:57

YES.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > CAR_IS_MI
10/13/2014 at 14:58

Yes it angers me quite a bit, always has. I wish it wasn't even called a Charger because of it.

Especially because the Challenger came along is basically a 2 door Charger so there's no chance of them fixing the problem.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 14:59

hahaha, don't be sad mr Pony Car Driver.

The Camaro/Firebird made a case that they were as good if not better than the Mustang the first time one was built. I wouldn't feel too insecure...

CAR_IS_MI > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
10/13/2014 at 15:07

Nope, never going to happen.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Takuro Spirit
10/13/2014 at 22:59

I'm sorry but the Firebird is defined as a pony car.

Stef Schrader > Takuro Spirit
10/14/2014 at 03:21

But...but.......horseylump!

Kinja'd!!!